It's about time!
Recently in a discussion a materialist pointed out that prior to the BB there was no time. Now in BB cosmology this is correct, as time is simply the rate of physical phenomenon. However this presents a problem for the BB. The story goes that a singularity underwent a quantum fluctuation, which caused the BB. Now quantum mechanics are a physical process. It is basically a measurement problem, we cannot know the position of a subatomic particle at a given moment, but we can predict its path of travel. Now if particles are moving then there are physical processes occurring and so there is time, perhaps not our time but time nonetheless. Now these physical properties must exist in something other than the universe, as it came into being with the BB. The singularity, which is matter condensed to "infinite density and infinite mass with no dimensions" according to BB cosmology, would be static. No particles would be moving, hence there is no path to predict, no quantum mechanics. They have to assume the existence of something that did not exist prior to the BB. So to account for the BB they have to admit that there was some process occurring prior to the BB. Which of course is time (physical processes). But this too supposedly came into existence with the BB.
When asked to account for the matter which supposedly existed in the singularity, they either claim it just happened or always existed. Now they offer no evidence for this, and as I pointed out could not offer any as we can know nothing prior to the existence of the universe. So they have assumed it, which of course is what they berate us for, blind faith (i.e. an unproven assumption) in God. One went so far to claim that "the universe is not an effect", which is just silly. If the BB created the universe then it would be a cause and the universe would be the effect. This should be fairly obvious, as only through the most tortured pedantry can one dispute this. But what caused the BB? "The quantum fluctuation of course." But there was no motion, so no quantum fluctuation. "No, it occurred just at the moment of the BB". Oh, so what caused the fluctuation, and how can you have a fluctuation in an event that’s not occurring? "Uh, it was always there" Then time did not begin with the BB. "Sure it did, an eighth grader can grasp that." Pretty circular if you ask me. So who has to have the greatest faith?
I’ll leave it with this, it now looks like the expansion of the universe is accelerating, if so it will not recombine but just expand forever and suffer heat death. So much for the eternal universe theory. When this was pointed out to our materialist he simply posted a reference that to a scientist who holds the oscillating universe theory, which of course doesn’t address the issue. Scientist also believed bad gasses from swamps caused canned meat to spoil. So what?
When asked to account for the matter which supposedly existed in the singularity, they either claim it just happened or always existed. Now they offer no evidence for this, and as I pointed out could not offer any as we can know nothing prior to the existence of the universe. So they have assumed it, which of course is what they berate us for, blind faith (i.e. an unproven assumption) in God. One went so far to claim that "the universe is not an effect", which is just silly. If the BB created the universe then it would be a cause and the universe would be the effect. This should be fairly obvious, as only through the most tortured pedantry can one dispute this. But what caused the BB? "The quantum fluctuation of course." But there was no motion, so no quantum fluctuation. "No, it occurred just at the moment of the BB". Oh, so what caused the fluctuation, and how can you have a fluctuation in an event that’s not occurring? "Uh, it was always there" Then time did not begin with the BB. "Sure it did, an eighth grader can grasp that." Pretty circular if you ask me. So who has to have the greatest faith?
I’ll leave it with this, it now looks like the expansion of the universe is accelerating, if so it will not recombine but just expand forever and suffer heat death. So much for the eternal universe theory. When this was pointed out to our materialist he simply posted a reference that to a scientist who holds the oscillating universe theory, which of course doesn’t address the issue. Scientist also believed bad gasses from swamps caused canned meat to spoil. So what?

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